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lezgoto (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
FBT, what happened to your question?
lezgoto (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
FBT, good morning. I'm not sure i understand what you are asking. Please rephrase. Also lets try to limit the questions to 2 at a time to be sure theres no confusion as to which question I'm answering and also because character count is limited.
mrqsilveira (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I don't know Averroes. Spinoza wrongly, I think, assumes an infinitely causal chain at the same time he equates God and Nature. We have to wait for QF and GR to come to grips into an unified TOE to see it better. Back to Spinoza, he states that "there can be no external reason why nature exists or acts". From that you extract Spinozas's "Strong Principle Of Equivalence" which unconsciously influenced Einstein, and wherefrom a clear QG conceptual framework can emerge. Makes sense?
eatenmyeyes (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Interesting analysis, but I think you are neglecting the fact that anything self-caused is necessarily a prime mover. When that is taken into account, his theology has no contradiction with that of Averroes.
mrqsilveira (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Spinoza kind of adopted the incoherent infinetely regressing universe idea because he included the infinite modes of being into his worldview along with infinetely regressing paths of causation. We could assume it as correct as soon as we also assume that the universe emerges from a quantum fluctuation of the fundamental state. Also this rubs out the "prime mover". What do you think of it?
mrqsilveira (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
But as "to exist" means to have a duration in time, evidently according to this God does not exist. Anyway, could we get around this sticky situation saying that God exists in the beings that flows from the quantum fluctuation wherefrom the universe emerges? Couldn't we move our scientific questioning and searching to "How God exists" then?
mrqsilveira (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
What else Spinoza defines about God in the Ethics which we can say is the most fundamental principle ever?
mrqsilveira (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Beyond simple logics what else could we say of the connection Spinoza-Einstein?
mrqsilveira (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Very good observation! What if we say the universe started with a quantum fluctuation of the fundamental state? Would that work out?
mrqsilveira (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
It seems you're correct. I like that! Sorry I am this late to the debate... |
